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Info-Hams Digest            Tue, 16 Nov 93       Volume 93 : Issue 1356

Today's Topics:
                             A/D for DSP
               Alpha Bravo: German alphabet with Morse
             Elmers are dead, god help us HAMS! (2 msgs)
              FCC Running in High Gear:  Are VECs Also?
                             Gary-bashing
                          HAM ftp mod sites?
                          License Datapoints
                Marantz Model 4300 Stero/Quad Receiver
                       Need help with Icom 230
                             Printer Ink:
                              Slowpokes
                    Using modified HT in emergency
                          What do I do now/

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Date: 16 Nov 93 17:34:00 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: A/D for DSP
To: [e-mail]

Text item: Text_1

My previous question must have been misleading, given the response so
let me ask it another way.

Given the direct conversion receiver specifications on page 79, Nov 93,
QST magazine, can we determine the dynamic range of the output audio, or
can we estimate it, or do we need more information?

thanks, Cecil, [e-mail]   (I do not speak for Intel)

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Date: 17 Nov 1993 01:32:25 GMT
From: galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!msuinfo!cl-next4![e-mail]
Subject: Alpha Bravo: German alphabet with Morse
To: [e-mail]

Brian Kelk ([e-mail]) wrote:
: From Anno Siegel <[e-mail]> I have
: received the following German alphabet. Not only is it an
: orthodox(ish) phonetic alphabet but it also gives you the Morse
: alphabet: a syllable represents a dash if it contains 'o', a dot
: otherwise.


: [...]
: For some reason, ae (a Umlaut) is not included, though oe and ue are.

What is morris code for a Umlaut ( )?

A book that I have says the the Verbal alphabet used when spelling in
a noisy environment, or over the phone is:

Anton
Berta
Caesar
Dora
Emil
Friedrich
Gustav
Heinrich
Ida
Johann
Kaufmann
Ludwig
Martha
Nordpol
Otto
Paula
quer
Richard
Siegfried
Theodor
Ulrich
Viktor
Wilhelm
Xaver
Ypsilon
Zeppelin
Eszett  (for  )

It does not specify what is used for the umlauted vowels. (The
reference is ``Cassel's Contemporary German: ...'' p. 163 It was
published in 1993 by MacMillian.)

Steve Dunham
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 19:15:56 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!nsa.hp.com![e-mail]
Subject: Elmers are dead, god help us HAMS!
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael Sattler) writes:

   I live in SF and wonder what freqs you've been listening to;
   each evening there's a "Going Home Club" for commuters where
   new users are often welcomed, and I often hear newbies (to
   both U/VHY and HF) talk with the same old voices on 145.15.

   I'd appreciate getting the "North CA simplex frequencies" from
   you.  Lookiny forward to meeting you on the air...

I can certainly give them to you - I merely looked them up in the ARRL
Repeater Directory:

Northern CA Simplex frequencies for the 2m band:

146.415, 146.430, 146.445, 146.460 (Used for Remote Bases), 146.475, 146.490,
146.505, 146.520 (Calling freq), 146.535, 146.550, 146.565, 146.595, 147.405,
147.420, 147.435, 147.450, 147.465, 147.480, 147.495, 147.510, 147.525, \
147.540, 147.555, 147.570, 147.585, 145.695 (RACES ALERT).

Disclaimer: My typing is not too good - check these frequencies for yourself!

I'm happy to meet on the air - simplex could be tricky with HTs since
I am in San Jose - unless I find a high point and use a better antenna
- there are plenty of repeaters that we could both hit I'm sure.

73s

Richard Webber
KD6ELB

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 16:25:00 GMT
From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hplextra!hplb!hpwin052!hpqmoea![e-mail]
Subject: Elmers are dead, god help us HAMS!
To: [e-mail]

Chris Levin ([e-mail]) wrote:
:

: Old hams helping new hams, Yea right.  First of all, most of you

  You're quite right, around the world (I'm in Scotland) 2metres is
largely a group of cliques which hardly ever talk to someone in a
different clique, certainly never to strangers.

  This will give any newcomer a bad feeling of being snubbed. As you've
listened to their conversations, I cannot, for the life in me, understand
why you would want to converse with them.

  "W11WWW Monitoring" is a clique - call. some member of his clique will
respond to him. You, as a non-clique member will get no response to such
a call because there is no-one in your clique (Those who do it are actually
in transmit when they say they're monitoring :-) No clique member will
 EVER call CQ on 2m or on any repeater because it risks ANYONE replying.
There are terrible penalties for any clique member calling CQ or talking
to strangers that make the Wouff Hongg seem tame.

  There are a few people worth meeting on the air, but it takes some
effort to find them in some areas. It is worth the effort, though.

:
: I also wonder what all of these knobs on my HF rig (Kenwood TS-820) do.
: The manual does not tell me, it just gives a tune up procedure.  How
: do I adjust my power on CW or SSB so as not to be rude like other
: hams I hear on HF?  Does the fact that I can't guess the answer because
: of poor manuals make me a bad person or am I just stupid?


 NOW here I can help....

  Your output valves have about an 800v power supply. The anodes are fed
via an inductor (RF choke) so 800v is their average DC level. Any signal
voltage will be an AC voltage superimposed on this. The anodes cannot go
very close to ground potential (you don't want to go too far below the
screen grid voltage of 250v or so, or else the screen starts to draw
increased current and can overheat) This means the anodes can do about a
500v swing down to 300v above ground. During the other half of the
cycle, they will swing 500v above their power supply to 1300v above
ground. Got the picture ?  OK.  We have a 1000 volt peak-peak AC signal.
How much power this relates to is undefined. It depends what resistive
load impedance it is applied to.  1000v p-p is about 350v RMS. To take
100watts from this we use 100=V^2/R  and get a load resistor of about
1200 ohms.  At RF this is a very high impedance. To design a transformer
to transform a 50 ohm load or antenna to 1200 ohms, AND withstand a
kilovolt is a tall order. Some filtering is also needed.

  Way back in the mists of time, someone decided to do the
transformation with a tapped resonant circuit and do both jobs with one
circuit. A simple loop of 2 caps and one inductor. The high voltage
input is applied across the smaller capacitor, the low impedance low
voltage load is applied across the larger capacitor. OK so far?
The junction of the two capacitors is chosen as the ground point as it
makes life easier. A blocking capacitor is used in the feed from the
anodes to block the DC component (800v)
   This is the classic Pi Tank.

If you want less power, set the output capacitance larger (labelled
LIGHTER loading on your panel just to create confusion!) and set the
input capacitance a little lower until you get resonance again. You have
changed the tappings of your resonator so your antenna presents a higher
impedance to the anodes and so takes lass current and power. Easy !

  Because the input cap (Labelled "PLATE") is much smaller, it has a
greater influence on the tuned frequency than the large output cap
(Labelled "Loading")  to understand this, just think of the formula for
2 caps in series.....

  Light loading is GOOD, your tubes run less current, last longer run
cooler, your pi tank is running with a higher Q, which makes it sharper
(and more difficult) to tune, but gives much more attenuation of
harmonics.

   Your Pi tank can be adjusted to avccomodate non-50 ohm loads, rather
like a reduced range ATU (It has as much range as many built-in auto
ATUs.


:
: Hey, concept, maybe I'm just new to this and need some help from an
: experienced HAM who gives a damn and believes in the ideals that
: created this hobby in the first place.

  Damn!

: People like YOU ruin the hobby, not new no-codes who are still learning.

  Some do, and are best ignored. They will go away eventually.

: I don't know what you do for a living but if you are not an
: EE or computer scientest god help you if you ever post a
: how do I do this question of either of these subjects.  I will rip
: you to shreds because in these fields I AM AN EXPERT. And since
: you know nothing and are a new comer, I'll just do onto you
: as you did onto Doug and all the rest of us newbies.
: with a radio.

   If you do that, they will have made you into something no better than
themselves. Vandals wreck that which they themselves do not have,
including minds.

:
: Sincerly,
:
: Chris Levin (KB7YOU)
: Soon to be bugging you on HF (If I can ever figure out those knobs!)
:
: PS: Doug, If you are still out there and have not figured these
: things out.  Email me and I'll share with you the stuff I've
: learned so far.  I think I can answer most of your questions.
:
: PPS: Welcome to the hobby, such as it is.
:
: EMAIL: [e-mail]


  You will find some truely reprehensible practices on HF " ..... OFF,
YOU ARE NOT DX   DX ONLY!  DX ONLY !"   " THIS IS MY FREQUENCY MINE MINE
MINE ALL MINE !"

  Don't let the fools grind you down. It takes some work, searching, but
you can find a few people worth conversing with, even some who are
technically stimulating. Again, the effort is worthwhile.

  I've found the QRP folk to be very friendly (They even help other
competitors in competitions!)

  There is a list of "Elmers" on usenet. try rec.radio.amateur.info

  "You are no older than you think you are" is a cliche, but as I
estimate my mental age at 6.125, perhaps it's not far off target. Age is
not the problem, it is a matter of attitude to life.

  Cheers
         David   GM4ZNX

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Date: 16 Nov 1993 14:21:43 -0800
From: news.sprintlink.net!news.world.net!teleport.com!teleport.com![e-mail]
Subject: FCC Running in High Gear:  Are VECs Also?
To: [e-mail]

Arlan R Levitan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bill Blum) writes:
: >Well, I took the test on 10/3...
: >and got my license today, 11/15.  (Effective date 11/09).
: >
: >Sure beats the 12 week wait times I was reading about this summer while
: >studying for the exams.

: I've heard wildly divergent tales of late...turnaround times for initial
: licenses ranging from 30 to 90 days. I'm wondering if there's a big
: difference in turnaround times, depending on which VEC is handling the
: front end of the paperwork?

: Anyone know?

My experience, for what it's worth...

I took my test May 15 and recieved my ticket August 5.
After waiting 8 weeks, I was talking to a couple of W5YI guys at a swap meet
and they swore that ALL their new licenses were coming back in six-seven
weeks. They encouraged me to check on the situation as they thought maybe
something had gone wrong.

My findings:

The local VE's sent the paperwork out on the May 17th, (overnight mail).
ARRL, (Association for Retarding Radio Licensing  8-)   ), sent it to the
FCC on or about June 6. That's about 18 days. In any case, it was somewhere
other than at the FCC from May 17 and June 6 or 7. I talked the the folks at
ARRL and they were quite nice and helpful. They said that May is a heavy
test month and that they are understaffed.
W5YI claims they complete the process in 1 day.

Of course, W5YI isn't busy dealing with critical stuff like:

Wanked all Unincorporated Areas
Wanked All Cities
Wanked All Counties
Wanked All States
Wanked All Countries
Wanked All Planets
Kerchunked All Repeaters
etc. ad nauseum.  8-)
8-)

I don't mean to disparage contesting or the time honored
"Worked All ____" aspect of amateur radio, but if bringing new hams
on line is as important as everyone says, shouldn't that have priority?


I don't know if W5YI can deliver as fast as they say or not.
It might be fun to collect reports from new licensees and make the
comparison.
For now I suggest that new licensees go through W5YI, if available.

Anyone out there have any data on this, one way or the other?

73's
Gene
KB7WIP


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Don't like it? Please direct flames to: [e-mail]

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Date: 16 Nov 93 17:51:53 GMT
From: world!ksr![e-mail]
Subject: Gary-bashing
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Michael Owen) writes:
>Gary Coffman has provided more sound, solid, correct, and
>useful information to this net than anyone else - perhaps
>more than everyone else combined - during the 2 years that
>I have subscribed.  I don't always agree with him, but at
>least he's not filling up my mailbox with useless drivel.
>He doesn't play lawyer-wannabe, scanner junkie, or knee-jerk
>CW hater/lover; he sticks to technical topics and he's usually
>thoughtful [and correct] about whatever he posts.

I don't know about "everyone else combined"; I'd guess Ed Hare is more
than a match, for one (and that's no bad reflection on Gary Coffman).
However, it turns out that Gary Coffman is not the Gary being bashed.
(Not this week, anyway ;-)  It's Gary McDuffie (whose callsign isn't
known by the callsign.cs.buffalo.edu server...).

John, WB7EEL

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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 17:48:24 GMT
From: haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!ddsw1!chinet![e-mail]
Subject: HAM ftp mod sites?
To: [e-mail]

Does anyone know of any ham ftp sites.  I'm looking for mod files to be
exact.
thanks,
scott
,
--
Scott Whittle (drx)                       [e-mail]

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Date: 13 Nov 93 06:11:00 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!ub!galileo.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte![e-mail]
Subject: License Datapoints
To: [e-mail]

 > From: [e-mail] (Dan Romanenko)
 > Organization: AG Communication Systems - Phoenix, AZ

 > I took (and passed) my no-code Tech. on Oct. 16th. Still waiting...

    According to the November issue of QST, the processing lag for new amateur
licenses is about 70 days now.

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Date: 17 Nov 93 00:51:00 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Marantz Model 4300 Stero/Quad Receiver
To: [e-mail]

Hi folks....not sure if this is the right place to "place" this article but
I've got to start somewhere....Problem is....I have a Marantz Model 4300 Stero
2=Quadradial 4 Receiver (purchased in 1974) that I need to find an ON/OFF
switch for!  Called Marantz and they tell me that part is no longer available.
I know that the switch I'm looking for is out there somewhere but I need some
help finding it.  Any information would be "greatly" appreciated!  Thanks in
advance.

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Date: 15 Nov 1993 15:03:05 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!concert!inxs.concert.net!elvis.concert.net![e-mail]
Subject: Need help with Icom 230
To: [e-mail]

Greetings!

I've inherited my dad's Icom 230 (bought in 1974), and would like to continue
using it.  The radio appears to receive just fine, and the crystal-controlled
tuner has to be TLC'd, but the output section has died.  I've already run the
radio through a cost estimate with Icom, and they said $200-300.  To be
honest, I'm hoping to come in a little under that (as I can buy a 229H new
for around $325 or so).

A friend at work here believe the power amplifier module (PA U-49 on the
schematic) is most likely at fault.  I'm looking for such a beast, and would
like to put out a general call for this and other spare parts.  Does anyone
have any leads?

Any help will be much appreciated!

73 de KC4WEJ,
Derrick

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Date: 16 Nov 93 17:57:09 GMT
From: ogicse!uwm.edu!wupost!crcnis1.unl.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis.unomaha.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Printer Ink:
To: [e-mail]

Does anyone know if NCR ink number K575-F is still being
manufactured and/or if there is an equivalent type of
ink I could use?

73,

Ron
AK0N

P.S.  Please respond to my e-mail box as I do not always have
the time to check the forum.  My e-mail box address is:
rerickso @ cwis.unomaha.edu

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 93 15:33:00 -0600
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!menudo.uh.edu!nuchat!cld9![e-mail]
Subject: Slowpokes
To: [e-mail]

Quoting [e-mail] to ALL concerning Slowpokes:


+- [e-mail] to ALL ----------------------------------------------------+
|                                                                          |
|The Novice license used to be kind of like a bunny slope at a ski hill.  I|
|gave you a chance to operate with others at your skill level so that you  |
|would be ready for what goes on in the other parts of the band.  It is too|
|bad that so many hams are skipping over this and missing out on a valuable|
|part of their training.                                                   |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+

I tend to agree with your statement.  Though we have many hams entering at
the Tech level in our area and many have gone on to upgrade to General or
higher the majority of them still prefer VHF or UHF to HF.  Eventually you
will see the CW requirement all but eliminated.  The mystique of having
something in common with only 200,000 or so others years ago will be gone!
Progress must go forth or does it?


 *  [e-mail] - N6ALS@K6LY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA

Message written at 11:54am, on Sunday, November 14, 1993.
---
 * [R2.00o] * Usenet * Nitelog BBS * Monterey CA * 408-655-1096

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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 17:45:16 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!dgg.cr.usgs.gov![e-mail]
Subject: Using modified HT in emergency
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Rick Nimtz) writes:
|>...
|> The ham attempted to reach someone on a number of amateur repeaters as
|> well as attempting to make a connection using a cellular telephone. Unable
|> to reach anyone he then climbed to the top of a nearby hill and attempted
|> once again to summon aid via the amateur repeaters and cellular phone. Only
|> when these methods failed did he use the police frequency. He contacted the
|> sheriff department on one of their administrative channels, not a dispatch
|> channel.
|>....
|> Emergency help arrived and his friend was taken to the hospital. The ham
|> wasn't so lucky. The sheriff department had him state that he used the
|> police frequency illegally and persuaded him to surrender his modified
|> HT. It was not mentioned if the FCC got involved or not.
|>...
|> Is this a case where the sheriff department's nose is out of
|> joint or what? Is it just an urban legend that a person can use any
|> radio or frequency to summon aid in life threatening emergency? Or is it
|> permissible in the FCC's eyes but not permissible to the county mounties?
|>
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Rick Nimtz                              INTERNET: [e-mail]

If the injury were life threatening and no other means were possible, then
nobody could argue that he did the right thing as a friend/human being.  Even
the sheriff could not argue that.  Assuming that the story is completely
true, then he did the right thing irregardless of the consequences.

The shreriff's department probably knows nothing of amateur radio and they
apparently felt that confiscation was necessary - even if they personally
agreed with what he did.  Whether or not the FCC will support him is the
real issue here.  When studying for my Tech license, one of the study
questions emphasized that in an emergency, anything goes.  I am not sure
whether this is addressed in part 97 or how much is left for interpretation.

I hope that the FCC supports him on this and sees to it that the radio is
returned.  They may ask him to 'unmodify' his radio.  If he is not supported
by the FCC, is fined and demands a trial, I don't see how a jury (or even a
reasonable judge) could convict him.  This is all assuming that all facts
are supportable and it can be shown that he had tried all other avenues of
communication...




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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 17:50:16 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com![e-mail]
Subject: What do I do now/
To: [e-mail]

Gary McDuffie Sr ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Now, if that doesn't say something about the current licensing
: situation, nothing will.

Gary:

I don't understand.  Since it is an HF radio, he must have passed one of
the "old" licenses with code (so your jab is not another round of the very
tired code vs. nocode thing).  You know, the ones whose structure has been in
place since the '60s.  Or do you believe it has been broken that long??

Besides, this is one of the rudest things I have ever heard from a ham.
I'll take new comers willing to ask honest questions anytime over
arrogent old timers who would mock them.

Bret "I Taught ham class at elementary school, so I've heard more
 honest questions than most and loved them all" Mckee
N0MTA

p.s. To the original poster, I grew up about an hour from IC.  If you cannot
 find anyone to help you there, I might be able to find someone if
 you are willing to drive...

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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 12:37:53 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!hermes.chpc.utexas.edu!news.utdallas.edu!corpgate!nrtpa038!brtph560!nt.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>on.ans.
Subject : Re: RF in the shack (was Re: 80m on 20m dipole)



>Anyway...  Right now the dipole is tuned for 1:1 SWR around 3800.  Anywhere
>from about 3700-3900 the SWR is below 1.5:1, however I have severe 80 meter RF
>getting into everything in the shack.  If I go down to the CW part of the
>band the SWR goes up over 3:1, but ** the RF problem goes away ** !! ??

>This is all with a tube transmitter so it is not any kind of high SWR power
>fold back kicking in.  Runing same power in both parts of the band.  I can't
>explain it.   You would think that any feedline radiation, etc, would be
>worse if the SWR was higher.

Try adding an 80 meter radial connected to the grounding post on the radio.
Also try reducing the output power.

73 - Dave.

====================================================================
Dave Redfearn, SR PC LAN Analyst   Northern Telecom  RTP, NC.
ph.[phone]  email: [e-mail]    qrl? de N4ELM/qrp

All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of
my employer, co-workers or any other person, real or imaginary.

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